Comments on: ColorOfChange.org Calls for Boycott of Glenn Beck’s Advertisers

By: Yachting

Yachting — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:06:29 +0000

Freedom of speech does not mean that you can go as far as abusing your fellow-beings without solid proof. I think news channels such as fox should refrain from maligning people in the minority who are coexisting with the majority in the US.

By: Jim Lee

Jim Lee — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:45:47 +0000

So if FOX so continually commits such sue-able offenses, why have they not been sued out of existence? Because to do so you have to PROVE they’re wrong in court. Just spouting it out doesn’t work.
Are we pretending they only defame people who are independently wealthy and just don’t bother to sue?
Sorry. I don’t have a vivid enough imagination to buy that.
I’m at a distinct disadvantage on this site. My parents never taught me how to hate anybody.

By: Crowdaddy13

Crowdaddy13 — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:53:01 +0000

FNB, the best way to debate with a conservative douche is to not debate with them at all…………they have hard mongoloid heads that cannot be penetrated, waste your carpal tunnel on something constructive.

By: FoxNewsBoycott

FoxNewsBoycott — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:56:35 +0000

Ben, oh master of semantics, here we go again… 1) never said there was nobody who claimed to be communists, 2) when arrested you go to jail, if convicted he would have gone to prison (short vs. long term) but the issue is that he was not convicted, 3) I stated that you made up a quote – from me, 4) predicting the future is still predicting the future regardless of the past, 5) Clinton? WTF? He lied & it’s irrelevant, 6) Never said I don’t have anything against politicians, 7) You have time to waste, but you’re a waste of my time… I’m done defending myself against your baseless accusations and twisting of words. You’ve proven that your comment was not beneath you, but it surely is beneath me & I’m not going to stoop to your level anymore.

Re: Van Jones – The following is from:
http://www.alternet.org/story/142310/glenn_beck%27s_crazy_lies_about_van_jones/

The ‘Green’ Jack Kemp?

Van believes in government clearing the way for private-sector innovation. In a YouTube clip, he said recently that progressives and conservatives should work together to find common ground and create a clean energy economy.

Van said: “We are not promoting welfare. We are promoting work. … We are not expanding entitlements. We are expanding enterprise and investment. … We are not trying to redistribute existing wealth. We are trying to reinvent an existing sector, so that we can create NEW wealth – by unleashing innovation and entrepreneurship. This should be common ground.”

He has been preaching that gospel, in various forms, for years and years. Van Jones is the nation’s “Green” Jack Kemp — using business-based solutions to attack poverty.

I found it interesting that Bill O’Reilly in his interview repeatedly asked Glenn Beck whether Van Jones’ youthful views had changed over time. Beck never answers those inquiries and instead keeps insisting that Van has championed these ideas recently. Again, that is simply not true.

Quotes Taken Out of Context

Upon investigation, it turns out that Beck is quoting (out of context) an article that in fact makes the OPPOSITE point.

The 2005 profile that Beck is flogging actually makes it crystal clear — even in the headline — that Jones has “renounced” his earlier views, matured and moved on. Van’s transformation is the entire point of the piece, and it is impossible that Beck does not know this.

Fortunately, O’Reilly seemed to sense the truth. I remember seeing O’Reilly interview Van Jones some time ago and was struck by how much respect O’Reilly showed for Jones. Perhaps O’Reilly’s knowing queries were prompted by that encounter.

When Van worked for me, he did exhibit that “know it all” quality that so many of us – myself included — have when we are young. Over the years, I have enjoyed watching him grow and blossom into a loving father and husband — and a creative, effective leader.

By: Ben Franklin

Ben Franklin — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:29:21 +0000

…and by the way. You claim that your pal Van Jones “was” a Communist, but that was then, and this is now. I’ve demonstrated by way of Jones’ own writings where and when he became a Communist, but you’ve failed (to even try) to demonstrate when Van disavowed his red affinity. Johnny come lately statements by himself or others AFTER he was outed are not qualified proof that he’d shed Communism before he was appointed Green Jobs Czar.

By: Ben Franklin

Ben Franklin — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:34:39 +0000

Let’s just try to keep these more focused… how’s that?
So when I write “First you guys claim “there’s no communists…” that’s generalizing? So have there, or have there not been communists hired, employed, enlisted, or generally utilized by the administration?
Even though you, very, very predictably are doing exactly what I said you would, by splitting hairs, please enlighten me as to the practical differences b/t jail and prison. And let’s not resort to dragging out the dictionary. Just let me know the practical differences. Is one of them voluntary? No… Is one of them where you come and go as you please? No. Do they serve better food in one or the other? Don’t know, never been there. Are the bars bigger or smaller in one? Bars are bars. Please regale me with the vast and and extreme differences. I can’t wait to hear this.
Lastly “making up quotes” and guessing the future. I know you’ll love this, I’m going to quote Patrick Henry… “I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the…” I’m going to leave the British out of this and say liberal pundits and Democrats when I quote your friends “Clinton didn’t have sex with Monica…” then it was “even if he did, it’s only sex”, then it became “no one died when Clinton lied” Well at least we finally got it out in the open. An admission of lying. Just remember, baby steps, baby steps.
If you don’t think that 98% of politicians SUCK, you’ve got to get out more often. If you do realize it, but won’t admit it, you’ve got some growing up to do.
Let’s leave it there. We’ll just work on the first paragraph of (29) and (30), then well push on once I’ve helped you to realize how misguided you’ve been. Don’t worry, we’ve got time.

By: FoxNewsBoycott

FoxNewsBoycott — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:01:32 +0000

Ben, I think that comment was beneath you, really. First paragraph… generalization, not knowing difference between jail & prison, making up quote, and guessing the future.
Second paragraph, dwelling on communism, but not including the fact that Jones later denounced those beliefs and has worked to build the green economy. Third paragraph, irrelevant Dunn reading, leaving out one of her favorite authors Mother Theresa and the fact that Bush recommended Mao to Rove. Fourth paragraph, ridiculous comparison of Beck’s Vicks VapoRub induced tears to get ratings and sell books to Van Jones being legitimately emotional about something serious. Then winding it all out with a childish, “gee, don’t call me racist for using the word ‘black’” act. Low.

By: Ben Franklin

Ben Franklin — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:53:29 +0000

First you guys claim “there’s no communists…” then you’re splitting hairs over jail and prison, then it’s “well he wasn’t in there that long, and “here read this”. Next it’s going to be “Communism is really the way to go because…”

Let me reiterate, while communism is still slightly uncool… From his own book: “I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.”

And WH DoC Anita Dunn’s outright statement that Mao is her political go-to guy on political philosophy… communist, murderer, leads nation into starvation… sounds good.

And slightly off topic… since you make so much fun of Beck for crying all the time, please note that the article you pointed to above states multiple times that Jones and his cohorts were weeping and crying over the verdict. I guess what’s good for the goose isn’t always good for the gander. I’d much rather have gone with the pot and the kettle, but god forbid, since then you’d probably claim racism.

By: FoxNewsBoycott

FoxNewsBoycott — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:38:46 +0000

Ben, That was a nice read. Thank you. I do think; however, it may have a slight chronological error. It mentions an arrest between events in 1994 and 1996 and may just involve STORM & not Jones specifically. Jones was arrested in 1992 during the L.A. riots, but he was in San Francisco and was never convicted. Yes, there is a difference between jail and prison, but the point is that the charges were dropped by the D.A. Can you provide a source that mentions a different arrest and the 4 months in jail? That seems like a long time to await trial, or for charges to be dropped, but I’ve heard of worse things…

Here’s something you ought to read by Eva Paterson, the person who first hired Jones as a legal intern & legal fellow – it addresses the arrest and communist label…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eva-paterson/glenn-becks-attack-on-van_b_271518.html

By: Ben Franklin

Ben Franklin — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:05:48 +0000

By the way, he was in for 4+ months. That’s not just an overnighter. Maybe Brenda saves time by not using spaces. When you think about it that’s probably about a 15% savings.