Emails about the cash for clunkers web site, Cars.Gov, like the following one shown below are going around, fueled by the latest Glenn Beck fear mongering. Keep in mind that it is 100% BS.

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First, if you go to Cars.Gov, your computer will not be taken over. I’ve done it, I know it doesn’t happen and that it’s not possible. The terms do not state that it will happen. Second, those terms cannot be found on Cars.Gov. Finally, what Beck doesn’t tell you is that there is another government site he must have used to find those terms, ESC.Gov, that is for car dealers only.

Here is part of the transcript… This guy is really clueless. I was particularly amused by his fear of browser cookies!

BECK: Let me bring in Kimberly Guilfoyle. She’s here. She’s a FOX News anchor.

Kim, I wanted to bring you in because the Cars.gov — and I recommend, America, do not try this at home. I’m going to show it to you. This is somebody else’s computer. I took it from their office, because I wouldn’t do this on mine.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Yes.

BECK: Cars.gov. This actually came in a tip from what I call a constitutional watchdog. I’m asking my radio listeners earlier all this week to watch these things, because 10 million eyes on radio, and God knows how many millions of eyes here on television watching things that we can’t watch. This is a frightening thing.

GUILFOYLE: It really is.

BECK: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: Don’t — people shouldn’t go on it right now while you’re doing it. Don’t do it.

BECK: Do not do this at home. Trust me. You’ll understand why.

OK. Can you take a shot here of this, Oscar?

Here is Cars.gov. Let’s say you go in. If I understand this right, I go in and I say, “I want to turn in my clunker.” The dealer goes to Cars.gov, and then they hit “submit transaction.” Here it says “privacy act and security statement,” and it’s like, oh, it’s the Privacy Act of 1974. Whatever. I agree.

Now, this is how bad this system is. It probably won’t pull up, because the system is so overwhelmed. You know, it was a $19 million Web site.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

BECK: So, let me — it’s not going to pull up now. Watch. It’s thinking. It’s trying really hard.

Let me show you what it does say when you pull it up. Can you bring up the full screen on what it says?

A warning box comes up, and it says, “This application provides access to the DOT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a federal computer system and it is property of the United States Government. Or — any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DOT, law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.”

Good God Almighty!

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27 Responses to “Glenn Beck Spreads Lies and Fear About Cars.Gov Site”

  1. I’m sure I will soon receive this “warning” email from well-intentioned but totally clueless friends who are becoming more and more terrified of our government by the day. Where was all this outrage when the Bush administration was tapping phones, intercepting emails and thinking about sending troops into Buffalo???
    .-= LesleyMo´s last blog ..Glenn Beck is taking over my brain! Forever! =-.

  2. nyxpooka says:

    So why dont you put the information that is placed on the site on here? Is it because its really damning or what? Just curious.

  3. FoxNewsBoycott says:

    nyxpooka, what information from what site?

  4. A client sent me the vidoe of this bogus ‘report’. At first I thought it was something made for a utobe posting by folks trying to be funny. Then I realized that this guy was trying to create fear by disception. What blows me away is that is his beloved George HW Bush & his cronies who were the authors of all the invasive computer & phone tapping legislation. Where were they when all that happened? How can this guy look in the mirror after putting such lies out to the public as though they were true. Plus, I was amazed at the anchor for Fox. I call her the poster girl for “showing your boobs for Jesus’. Did you see that sweet little gold cross buried there between her boobs? What a phony. All in all, it was an amazing piece of crap & one that will, no doubt, make the rounds before it dies. These idiots rely on other idiots who believe them to make a living. Don’t support any thing to do with Fox because they are harming the United States and taking over the communication channels for the country. Fox & Rupert Murdoch is about as scary as it can get..

  5. Beck WAS talking about the dealership part of the Cars.Gov site. That was obvious. In the transcript you have above he says, “The DEALER goes to Cars.Gov.” And guess what? The White House agreed with Beck and removed the disclaimer. A W.H. spokesperson released a statement calling the disclaimer “misleading”.

    Did you not read your own post?

    Good God Almighty!

  6. FoxNewsBoycott says:

    You’re right, Beck did state that, right after he said, “I go in and I say, ‘I want to turn in my clunker.” What was Beck trying to prove, though? First of all, he’s not a dealer. Second, he’s telling the public, like they would have to accept those terms in order to turn in their cars. And third, at the time all the facts appeared to be correct as the White House had not released the statement and I did not know about it until now, so thank you.

    The fact of the matter is that the casual non-dealer would never find that disclaimer, nor would they ever have to agree to it. Actually, there is a separate URL that one would have to type in because users can’t even find it from the Cars.gov front page. Beck never clarifies that point.

    Lastly, Beck also failed to mention that the agreement has the line, “Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system…” That is important because it is stating that the Government may simply look at files and information submitted to their system. Yes, the first paragraph may be misleading, but the subsequent statement, which I quoted above, is not.

    It is nothing more than fear mongering. Beck could have made many clarifications and done some research, but that’s obviously not his intent.

  7. FNB, dealers are citizens and if I was a dealer I wouldn’t have wanted to agree to that waiver. The Obama administration did the right thing by admitting their error and removing it from the agreement. Whenever a reporter or commentator breaks a story (as Beck did here), and it gets this swift an action by the White House, then he’s doing his job. Glenn Beck got it right this time and I can’t for the life of me see where
    he spread any lies about Car.Gov.

    Thanks.

  8. FoxNewsBoycott says:

    Plunket, Dealers may be citizens but a tiny fraction of citizens are dealers. You know, but will never admit that Beck was misleading in his presentation of the Cars.gov web site. From what I’ve read, the terminology in the agreement is boilerplate on many government web sites. I suggest you never go to one if you’re so afraid.

  9. LesleyMO said:
    “Where was all this outrage when the Bush administration was tapping phones, intercepting emails and thinking about sending troops into Buffalo???”

    We were getting fed up, THAT is where we were. Where we you? Where are you now?
    Just because one doesn’t do the right thing one time (not speaking out against Bush’s privacy infringements) doesn’t mean that one should never from that point on do the right thing, does it?

    It just amuses me that everytime something comes up with the current administration that you guys all start shrieking “What about Bush? What about Cheney? Where were you then?”

    Again I say to you – where we YOU and where are YOU now?

    CRWE
    -

  10. OOPS- Where *were YOU and where are YOU now?

  11. MichaelATL says:

    FoxNewsBoycott wrote on August 5th, 2009 at 8:43 am

    Plunket, Dealers may be citizens but a tiny fraction of citizens are dealers. You know, but will never admit that Beck was misleading in his presentation of the Cars.gov web site. From what I’ve read, the terminology in the agreement is boilerplate on many government web sites. I suggest you never go to one if you’re so afraid.

    So let me get this right you condone this action because it only a small fraction of citizens? You know Beck might have been misleading, but no more than your dismissal of the government disclaimer being misleading. Which I find hard to believe when Washington D.C. is full of lawyers and they know exactly what language to use.

    I think you need to let your hate for anything from Fox News or any other person with an opinion opposed to your own stop blinding you. I don’t care for any news channels as all of them slant one way or another. Yet, that video clearly shows by logging into a tax payer paid for web site with a disclaimer like that is very eye opening. The fact this story broke on Friday and was removed by the W.H. on Monday shows that apparently it was wrong. It should have never been posted in the first place by the very government that is supposed to protect the American people, not spy on them by using lawyer speak disclaimers.

  12. Just to add my 2 cents. I agree with you FNB in that dealers make up only a small number of citizens and when they agree to the privacy terms, then any information that the dealer puts into that computer can be looked at by the government. With that being said, then all of the citizens who get a new car using the “cash for clunkers” will have their information on the same computer, which can then be accessed. The car buyer didn’t click OK and approve to have the Gov. look into their info. Not to mention other people who use the computer.

  13. Where was I? I can’t answer for the other posters on this thread, but I was posting against all the privacy infringing wire-tapping, e-mail capturing, cellphone-listening policies of the so-called “Patriot Act” during the Bush Administration’s term. As it is, isn’t there a current investigation into Bush’s aids and Cheney himself regarding the legality of all that “snooping” during their hunt for Al Quaeda?

    The government during Bush’s term probably collected more data through The Patriot Act on people’s consumer, social and investment habits than they did on Al Quaeda during that time so they could present their “facts” that America was doing so well – when everyone else here “in the trenches” of American Business (aka – the Middle and Working Classes) saw the writing on the wall and could do nothing but bend over and take it up the poop-chute!!

    I can’t confirm that the agreement is on other government sites, but personally, I wouldn’t want just ANYONE to have access to government programs without some strict, binding contracts. Remember, it’s OUR tax dollars going into those programs (whether you’re pro or anti) and I’d hate it if Hamas or Al Quaeda used it as some kind of “piggy-back” way of getting to more sensitive data. Rather the government snoop their PCs to make sure they’re legitimate people/businesses and not fronts for terrorists.

    Oh, and as a note to those defending Beck – he DID mention that it was the access for dealers that he got that agreement pop-up box. However, as others have tried to point out, Beck wasn’t reporting that DEALERS should be cautious about going onto the site, he was saying EVERYONE needed to stay away. As many here and elsewhere on the Net have found out, the average American (in this case, those that do NOT own a car dealership) NEVER see that agreement because they wouldn’t have access to it.

    Also, for the White House to make corrections on the agreement, apparently the did NOT intend to make dealers feel they’re giving up all their company/personal data to the government and wanted to clarify that by rewriting or removing the agreement (I can’t confirm what it says now because, like Beck failed to enforce on his report, I don’t own a dealership and therefore cannot access the area that has that agreement.)

    You have to take these all with a grain of salt – Fox News is a Republican/Conservative/Right-Wing news station and their reporting reflects that. Just like Air America is a Democrat/Liberal/Left-Wing talk-radio station, you have to investigate their investigative reporting to get the real truth.

    If like most of us you don’t have time to research the data on all the left-wing and right-wing reports to get the truth, try doing what others do to get a semblance of truth on American Politics – read/watch the BBC! ;-)

  14. Plunket, yes the administration removed the “misleading wording” from the agreement. Now if Beck was breaking a news story on the “misleading wording”, then yes he surely was doing his job. However, this was clearly not the case was it?

  15. FoxNewsBoycott says:

    MichaelATL, Did I ever say that I would condone such an action if that were the action intended? Nope. If the government really wanted to access every citizen’s computer and install malware, yes, I’d be upset. Do they? Nope. I think your blind support for Fox News has you making ridiculous assumptions of others.

    JBaily, People using the Cash for Clunkers program are receiving money from the government, therefore the government needs to know information about those people. Would you rather have no accountability? Again, the disclaimer had to do with information on the Cars.gov system. Any leak of information from a dealership is between the customer and the dealership.

    Markus, Thank you for pointing out the contractual obligations people must have when dealing with the government. Only dealerships will have access to that part of the system and to protect itself, the government must have disclaimers and restrictions.

    SD, Great point! The real issue is not the disclaimer itself. That’s just a smoke screen… The problem with Beck is that he sensationalized the subject, rather than provide a factual statement about the misleading wording, or the second part of the disclaimer that is more clear about its purpose.

  16. Truth Always Triumphs says:

    FNB, How do you have any better idea than anyone else what the governments intentions are? Your blind hatred for anything that questions this administration reminds me exactly of the the right wingers that defended bush and his cronies. In the end, all of you blind sheep will be led to the slaughter believing to the end that the people in charge of our country for the last eight years, AND NOW, including your beloved left wing that has been in control of Congress for quite some time, are altruistic. They want control of YOU, YOUR MIND,and YOUR MONEY. Nothing more.

    I think the healthcare plan is a bid to go to a (poorly run) single payer system. I heard those exact words from obama, out of context or not, he said them. Now you better run off to your feds at flag@whitehouse.gov to report me comrade. <—Get it? Your altruistic free speech government wants people to report on each other if they spread "rumors" (I call them opinions) about the plan.

    Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. I have coined a new phrase for you fascist lefties.

    NEO-LIBS! (ok, I stole it, better report me)

  17. FoxNewsBoycott says:

    Truth, For one, I can read and have more than a grade school level of comprehension. There are plenty of things about this administration that I don’t like and would never defend, but that would be completely outside the intended scope of this site. The rest of your comment makes me wonder if you had any valid points to begin with…

  18. The author of this article is worse than the crime he is accusing Glenn Beck of committing.

    First of all, this email is NOT from Glenn Beck. It would be ignorant and naive to think that Glenn Beck was the only person worried about the Warning that pops up for dealers who are logging in to the program.

    Glenn Beck did not spread any lies…if anything, he shared some of the fear you should naturally feel if you had the warning show up on your computer.

    He never said that going to the website would let the government take over your computer. He said…don’t go to their site…that is the responsible thing to do as a host of a show being shown across the country. He clearly indicated that the danger was in pressing continue after reading the warning.

    THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE NEEDS TO GROW A BRAIN, or STOP SPREADING LIES ABOUT GLENN BECK JUST BECAUSE HE HAPPENS TO DISAGREE WITH HIM!!!

  19. FoxNewsBoycott says:

    Ben, Stop with the petty battle of semantics. We all know what Beck said and that his intention is to fuel the fire by spreading fear where it doesn’t belong. It’s obvious now that you’re just making stuff up i.e. the email being from Glenn Beck – nobody said that. You still can’t seem to grasp the fact that he told people not to go to Cars.gov and then showed the audience a part of the site that they could not get to unless they were a car dealer. You also seem to ignore the fact that he disregarded the rest of the disclaimer that clearly states that it only applies to information submitted to the system. “The responsible thing to do as a host of a show being shown across the country” is to do some research and provide the actual facts, not just what you incorrectly interpret them as being.

  20. nyxpooka, what on earth are you talking about?

    And yes, Beck is trying to spread unnecessary fear. Any intelligent person would read the disclaimer before submitting their personal information to a government website. Anyone who doesn’t read it deserves whatever problem is coming to them.

  21. I can’t believe that anyone is freaking out that the government expects to be able to protect their websites for one. It’s the same concept as having to go through a metal detector and a pat down in a government building, don’t hear you screaming about that.
    Second, I went to the website about 1/2 way through the program being available to see if my clunker ford would qualify, I never got any warning about my pc’s privacy but I did get great links to see how much of a nasty carbon foot print I was creating every year by driving an explorer (it is nasty).
    For anyone complaining about our government trying to keep Mal-wear and Trojans out of the data bases, feel free to open any email and go to any website after you disable your fire walls and shut down your anti-virus. To quote plenty of my republican friends from when they talked about the wire tapping et-al “I don’t have anything to hide from my government”.

  22. Everyone in this Country needs to stop believing newscasters and do research for themselves! No matter what party you belong to…stop believing the news. Most stations are biased to a certain party. Instead of being divided we need to unite. If we want to uncover the truth…we need to do our own work and research it ourselves and stop believing the bias medias. Both sides are guilty of it!

  23. CRWE said:
    “LesleyMO said:
    “Where was all this outrage when the Bush administration was tapping phones, intercepting emails and thinking about sending troops into Buffalo???”

    We were getting fed up, THAT is where we were. Where we you? Where are you now?
    Just because one doesn’t do the right thing one time (not speaking out against Bush’s privacy infringements) doesn’t mean that one should never from that point on do the right thing, does it?
    It just amuses me that everytime something comes up with the current administration that you guys all start shrieking “What about Bush? What about Cheney? Where were you then?”
    Again I say to you – where we YOU and where are YOU now?”

    You were GETTING fed up? Do you not remember he was elected twice? When did you get FED UP? Just in time for Obama? Gimme a break lady…
    I dont know about you but this is where im at: infowars.com

  24. That is important because it is stating that the Government may simply look at files and information submitted to their system. It’s the same concept as having to go through a metal detector and a pat down in a government building, don’t hear you screaming about that.

  25. Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have been criticizing President Obama since January 2009 with misleading information and false accusations. Anyone who is intelligent can see through the Fox Network hatred of Barack Obama. The Town Hall meetings, Tea Party gatherings…..99% white and 75% over 50 years old-The exact target audience of Beck and Hannity to inspire FEAR. If they were truly concerned about the United States and their childrens future, they would have been hollering from the rooftops when George Bush declared war on Iraq because he claimed there was weapons of mass destruction and of course could not find one truth to that. (No wnder we could find no other support from any other nations to invade Iraq) Also, the Governments ability to tap our phones and evesdrop on personal conversations. Where was the outrage then? They have no credibility and to claim they are fair and balanced is a joke. Fox News is an all day and evening attack President Obama and they claim to love America….. The ultimate revenge is Obama IS President and will defeat and Republican in 2012. Bring on Sarah Palin,he’ll beat her again!

  26. It’s the same concept as having to go through a metal detector and a pat down in a government building, don’t hear you screaming about that. That is important because it is stating that the Government may simply look at files and information submitted to their system.

  27. It’s the same concept as having to go through a metal detector and a pat down in a government building, don’t hear you screaming about that. The fact of the matter is that the casual non-dealer would never find that disclaimer, nor would they ever have to agree to it.

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